erasure of Asian people and characters is very deep rooted in American media and goes all the way back to conception—don’t let it persist!
Important even when you’re excited about this movie!
good points, but please for the love of god, realize that the original marvel comic was a fucking horrible racist disaster of the most unacceptable calibre that rode on the tail ends of the 90s ninja craze and the budding 00s anime craze.
I still have no idea why Disney chose to adapt this MASSACRE of a comic book series to film, but what I have heard is that they’ve cherry picked the best parts of it and created something great from what was absolute dregs before.
And honestly I think a movie portraying a much, much more racially diverse -even if it is fictional- world, where everyone lives unquestionably together and showing what that might just be like, is a pretty good goddamn thing that I think could stand to be shown and portrayed to kids of this generation. You aren’t seeing the white kids appropriating anybody’s culture, you’re seeing a bunch of kids who are friends and race is not a divisive factor between them. I sort of think, in media, portraying/normalizing these sorts of things is really important and I think that is what BH6 is doing here: normalizing these sorts of situations.
When I say “normalize”, I mean, in media, and especially media for impressionable children, things that could be anything from diverse/inclusive groups of people from different races, to things like different genders, or different body types, being shown as “normal.” You put them on screen and tell a kid “this is normal.” and this can be shown in a way to goad children into doing what advertisers/media producers want, but it can also be used as a force of good. It’s about time we start using this media influence to spread stuff like this, instead of “buy this toy, wear this type of clothes, girls behave this way and boys have to do this or they aren’t normal”.
baby steps, man. There was a shitstorm when Laika released a movie with an openly gay character. But when they did the same thing a year after for the Boxtrolls, only the stupid old people got pissy about it. See? It’s starting to become normalized.
In the future I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s now easier for more diverse casts to exist, not just because it’s now been done once, but because the people, like me, who work in production, can point to things like this and say “see? They did it in Paranorman, the world didn’t explode. It’ll be fine.” or “see? the movie didn’t have to change for a bunch of different races to fit in fine. It’s not a big deal.” It’s been normalized. Somebody has to set a precedent. Wouldn’t it be great if shows were as diverse as this, not because they had some sort of agenda to, but just because that’s… yknow, normal?
:/ sorry that you consider representation of race “an agenda”
White washing is a serious problem and has had detrimental effects on the psyche of minorities ESPECIALLY when it comes to children’s movies. (Like how now everyone thinks POC never existed in Medieval or Renaissance Europe??? They were LITERALLY EVERYWHERE, some of which who had strong political, financial, or military positions, but they never really make their way into even bg characters in Medieval movies/shows like Game of Thrones, Beauty and the Beast, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hercules, etc, do they? ) Whether or not the original material was offensive Disney had an opportunity to take it to a really healthy place.
What white kids need to be learning isn’t just how they can exist and coincide with poc, but that poc fucking exist without white people having to be there.
That not every space is for them, that not every space SHOULD HAVE to include them, because they often don’t, usually BECAUSE OF WHITE PEOPLE.
Because we as poc are CONSTANTLY FORCED to experience white-only spaces in the media. we are CONSTANTLY having to be explained into the plot, CONSTANTLY having our race be the TOPIC, the main point of our characters, instead of just existing in spaces that are safe for us and where WE ARE THE DEFAULT.
If Disney was actually trying anything that would be progressive and helpful, the setting they would have chosen would not have been the appropriative shit storm that is San Fransokyo (really? You don’t find using SACRED Shinto shrine gates, which are supposed to be used as an entrance to a sacred place, OFFENSIVE as BRIDGE DECORATION?? That’s basically like hanging representations of jesus all over a bridge) whether or not it’s “less racist and appropriative” than the original source material DOES NOT MEAN IT ISNT STILL RACIST AND APPROPRIATIVE AS FUCK
This post isn’t serving an “agenda” it’s serving to educate people who exist in their comfortable bubble of agreeing with the white default and to show them they are not the only ones who want to enjoy portrayal in media, and that they should be allies in criticizing media alongside their underrepresented poc.
If Disney didn’t want to be so freaking offensive, they could have easily set the movie in regular San Francisco and made reference to their ACTUAL EXISTENT large asian and black population, and their spaces (which DO exist largely apart from the white population of San Fran, it’s called segregation, only this segregation occurs because of gentrification and other things that keep minorities in poverty stricken areas and not a direct order from the govt to purposefully segregate based off race, although in a lot of situations theyre pretty much a word or two away from doing so)
By creating San Fransokyo Disney essentially said “Oh a place that has Asians Blacks and Whites?? That can’t possibly already exist? So let’s make up a place!!Oh but let’s make it strictly related to Tokyo so we don’t have to include all those other asians and keep the Japanese Aesthetic and Robots and all that Cool Culture Junk those kids are into now a’days!”
It’s like if media only ever represented white people with tea and doilies or wrapped in American flag cloaks. Sure it would be funny once or twice, but when that’s the ONLY representation you’re ever allowed, ever given in 90% of all media, it gets old. And it gets old fucking fast. You can only fake a smile or a laugh for so long. Oh but they’re in the movie, look there’s like three and one of them is even British!
I would be highly SURPRISED and severely disappointed if several artists at Disney weren’t offended or didn’t try to speak against the problems in this film during production.
I’ve never been more happy than now, where marvel is trying so hard against waves of racist sexist fans to include more women and poc in their comics because I’ve never seen myself, a queer, non-cis, situationally white-passing poc, fully or consistently represented in some way as the hero, as the target of affection, as the kid who had something special that could change the people or circumstances around them. ANd I’m and in NO WAY NEAR THE MOST UNDERREPRESENTED MINORITY, like south asian, indian, middle eastern and indigenous peoples are what I can think of right away, even more so those of them with darker skin. (Such as possibly the Ainu character that could have been in this film, who although from Japan suffer from lots erasure and colorism within the asian community, as well as other things related to being an indigenous person)
Representation isn’t only about the RACE of the person represented. It’s about all the things it means to be that race. It’s about the subtleties, those within the way we talk with each other, in what we choose to talk about with each other, in the struggles we go through, in the ways we live, in the decisions we make in the situations we find ourselves in.
Without creating defaults within the specific stories told, we lose the perspective of the protagonist, everything begins to lean on a Western White perspective because we’ve all been forced to experience that as the default all our lives, even in stories that are supposed to be for us. (Pocahontas being one of the largest offenders of this in my opinion)
I am not, repeat NOT saying everyone shouldn’t see this movie (like the op) Disney deserves to know and understand the impact of Hiro’s adorable furry-browed amazingly voice-acted presence as a main character is something we not only want but desperately need, especially from a company that many people all over the world read as a major international symbol on top of being an American one.
However as much we can enjoy this we have to be vehemently and unapologetically critical of it, because we as poc and more importantly, as people, we deserve better.
So please, we are extremely tired of this extremely overused uninformed and extremely classist argument that does nothing to add to the conversation other than to trivialize the poc experience into something we should just get over and be fine with being treated as so called equals. Because we aren’t. WIth all the movies in the world we won’t be. Not until the percentages of America’s minorities are represented more accurately in media as directors, writers, artists, actors, politicians, cook show hosts, whatever it might be.
I am a Person, not a goddamned agenda.
Also baby steps are never a good metaphor I mean c’mon do you see how often babies just fall down backwards and roll a couple feet and wait a couple seconds before they start bawling. Giant media companies are giant babies if they fall down while taking baby steps we’ll end up back in the 60’s who wants that I can’t wear booty shorts in the 60’s it’s practically illegal.
do u ever look back on ur childhood and get blown away by how gay u were before u even knew what gay was
A while ago I heard a version of this story where Athena has pity on Medusa and turns her into the gorgon to protect her from all men. A gift instead of a punishment for her brother’s crimes.
It always stuck with me, so here’s a doodle.
This has come up on my blog a few times, and I REALLY really am struck by how beautiful this is. so.. reblogging it to you guys. Isn’t it lovely?
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Some Pearl doodles. Today was not a good day for drawing.
i see lucy as a racist film that plays on negative stereotypes while hiding behind the cover of (white) feminism.
all this film has done is switch out the white man for a white woman. it’s still a film about a white person getting violated by the evil poc, then gaining power and wiping them out.
here’s 2 of my favourite scenes from the trailer:
from top to left to right:
KEEP CLEAN 保持清潔，APPLE 蘋果，ONION 洋蔥，GRAPE 葡萄，CHAIR 椅子，TOMATO 番茄
traditional chinese is an actual written language used by millions of people, not symbols to be thrown around at the whim of set designers because they look cool and idk, serves to create a menacing asian atmosphere. this is so disrespectful, and made even worse by the fact that this film in set it taipei, taiwan where the official written language is traditional chinese.
it doesn’t matter that this film caters to a primarily “white” audience who won’t be able to read it, the language and culture of taiwan isn’t something for you to twist and use as you deem fit because it’s “exotic.”
lucy shoots a guy for not being able to speak english.
she l i t e r a l l y shoots this taiwanese taxi driver, in taiwan for not being able to speak english. she’s in taipei and she’s shooting people as they are of no use to her because they don’t speak english.
just think about the sort of message that’s sending out. she’s not being “bad-ass strong female character who takes no shit,” she’s saying that english is useful and better. this is the type of harmful ideology that stretches all the way back from when western countries were colonising and forcing their language and customs on other countries.
let me explain with a real life example. i was born in new zealand to two taiwanese parents. i am fluent in english, but mandarin is conversational at best. my friends in taiwan say that i am “so lucky” to speak fluent english, when they are fluent in mandarin and their english level is no worse than my mandarin. they tell me that they want to perfect their english but in the same breath tell me that mandarin isn’t worth perfecting because i have english and that’s “enough”. they also tell me how pretty my white friends are when they see pictures.
this is the type of neo imperialism ideology that they’ve grown up buying into. it honestly hurts and frustrates me that they belittle their own culture like this, honestly believing that the western world is superior. this is the type of neo imperialism ideology that this film (hopefully unintentionally) promotes: white people are better and will save the day.
if they wanted to film a movie about a white women getting back at those who had violated her, why not film it in a western country? if they wanted to film it in taiwan, why not find an asian lead actress?
i do agree that we need more women protagonists in action/superhero movies, but not like this. its not okay that the female lead needs to be kidnapped and have her body cut open without her consent in order to gain her powers, and those said those powers do not make any of this racist bullshit okay.
i am just so tired and angry of poc always being brushed off to the side as either props or villains in mainstream media.
as a poc, it’s so frustrating to see that the of the standard of beauty still white women when we live in multi-cultural societies and a diverse world.
feminism is about equality. a film in which poc are presented as evil and inferior before being killed off by a superior white woman does not promote equality.
Holy shit this is so true, the first time saw the ‘Lucy’ trailer I actually gasped at the part where she shoots the driver because I was disgusted at what I saw. This answer more accurately describes it than I ever could, but bottom line is I’m not planning on seeing this movie and I do not support it in any way.
I live in an extremely racist family and it’s movies like this that continue to condone this kind of behavior towards POCs in general.
the first female chinese immigrant to america was a sixteen-year-old girl who was part of a cultural exhibit where she sat in a life-size diorama and people watched her eat with chopsticks while wearing silk clothes and that’s really all you need to know about the commodification of chinese women
Afong Moy. Her name was Afong Moy. Say the names of people who should be remembered.
Warm-up sketches from this morning (yesterday morning???)
Character sketches for a chapter I was brainstorming, and two dogs owned by one of the characters.
guess whose dogs those are
That one friend that be goin too far listening to music
Night Fury Attack
The unholy offspring of lightning and death itself ….